yeah, well gas, rent and everything else is way more expensive in Cali too so whats your point? we arent spoiled. we pay with what our cost of living allows in az. and didnt you hit a tire wall at adams, which probly made people have to wait on you? I know I fuck up sometimes which makes people have to wait on me. people all start somewhere.Not trying to be a dick, just trying to prove a point. I agree with what Kelly says about separating groups, however thinking about it now, the biggest thing that teaches me is running with better drivers and trying to follow their line. I think that will be lost for many of us if we separate the events into groups.all in all I think we have a good thing going that could only benefit from different layouts/tracks, but if that cannot be done then who's complaining? we can always make a trip to vegas/cali/nm and slide there if we need something new also.
I don't think this would work. 3 hours for 50 bucks. That's a pretty high price. The last TBF event was less than 100 and we got around ~6 hours of track time on 2 tracks. You are suggesting twice the price for less value. You wouldn't have enough people pay to convince firebird of having a drifting day on it's own imo.
Seriously? $50 is too much? I'd pay more to keep people off the track and stop bringing out cars that should not be out there. How much time do people really spend drifting when they are out there? waiting 10 minutes for a run then a person runs into the tire wall and kills 40 minutes of drifting then something else happens. People here are very spoiled. Adams in riverside is $20 an hour to drift... they have 3 sessions... that's $60... you save $10. What's to complain about. How much people got into drifting because it was the cheaper way to go?
So you're complaining about costs but then suggest traveling to Vegas The separation in groups is fundamental. It's the reason there are eight different courses at Ebisu and the reason why most successful drifting organizations have multiple courses for one event. Some people do not need to be on main track at all just yet. I think raising the costs a little bit will eliminate the people that are fucking around and wasting time but at the same time bring in more people that are serious.
$30 = 40+ cars on average right?
$60 = 20+ cars with a higher skill level driver on average means more track time for everyone. The key to this is getting the skidpad for beginners. It sounds unfair but skidpad allows enough flexibility to go from a first time driver to a driver that is ready for tandem. Then, when your skill level is where it should be, start driving on main and west. I know I'm not the first person to think this or even say it out loud but the Drag and Drift is a fucking circus right now, hence our top drivers in AZ don't even show up regularly.